In this brief video, E.piphany founder Steve Blank describes the company’s culture of late nights at work, and the epiphany he had after leaving at 7:00 one evening for a meeting outside the office. His realization, upon seeing employees leaving—starting with his direct reports and cascading down—once he was gone, was not surprising. He had fostered a culture that valued time worked rather than results. He concludes by saying, “If you’re there at 11:00 at night, either we’re giving you too much to do, or you’re not very good at your job, so which one is it?”

As change practitioners, there are a few important messages here. First, what is the culture that leaders and sponsors—right down to first-level managers—are fostering? Is it one of work, or one of results? Related to that question, what are they telling others about the importance of the change we are supporting? How they spend their time, the questions they ask, the conversations they hold, the non-verbal messages they send, are often more telling than the words they say. What are they doing to show their commitment to the outcome of the change, or are they? Finally, what is the message that we are conveying? Is it about how hard we work, or the results we are producing?

About the Author: Brian Gorman

Brian Gorman is a transformation coach who supports individual and organizational change, sharing his “lessons learned” to ease others’ journeys. He is a workshop facilitator, public speaker, and author of The Hero and the Sherpa, a chapter in the Handbook of Personal and Organizational Transformation (Springer Publishing). Brian also creates blogs, articles, and videos about the change journey. From 2016 to 2023, Brian served as Managing Editor of Change Management Review™, where he curated articles, contributed original writing, hosted podcasts, and collaborated with guest authors. Over five decades, he has worked with individuals and organizations—including Fortune 100 companies—gaining deep insights into universal patterns for navigating change. Brian holds a BA in Cultural Anthropology from Syracuse University, an MA in Higher Education Administration from the University of Texas, San Antonio, and an MA in Human Relations from the University of Oklahoma. He is an ICF-certified coach, an active member of its NYC chapter, and belongs to the Forbes Coaches Council and the Gay Coaches Alliance.

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